Live Around the Planet: Friday August 4th :: SteynOnline

by Mark SteynClubland Q&AAugust 4, 2023

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Yes, it's me! Mark Steyn of that ilk - and not dead yet, despite the best efforts of the University of Vermont Medical Center. I'm still on my Eurosickbed, but it's Friday, so that means I'll be rousing myself and conducting another edition of our Clubland Q&A live around the planet. The fun starts at 3pm North American Eastern time/8pm British Summer Time. We'll try to pin down the rest of the time zones below, but do, as they say, check local listings. And, if my ruinous health refuses to cooperate, please forgive me.

On today's edition I'm willing to take questions on whatever's on your mind, but let me take a circuitous route to what I'd propose as an overall theme. A week or two back, I noted that travesti, in one form or another, has existed as a niche demographic in human society for thousands of years. Paul Harmon, a First Hour Founding Member of The Mark Steyn Club, did not care for my relaxed attitude to an age-old phenomenon:

I do have a great objection to a man identifying as a woman.

First Week Founding Member Robert Fox agrees with him:

I gotta give Paul Harmon his due. Unfortunately, I did not spend the weekend emptying Mr. Webber's mini-bar, but I did chance to read one or two articles regarding some struggles between some school districts in the United States and the parents of children who attend said schools.

Some school districts are revoking the option given to parents to excuse their kiddos from being exposed to the nouveau style vaudeville shows at school featuring scantily clad men posing as flamboyant women, shaking and gyrating, leaving little to the imagination. The 'purpose' of these shows is to allow children as young as five years old to 'celebrate' degeneracy. Overwhelmingly, parents were asking that their children be excused from this 'activity'. In response, these school districts are now requiring the children to attend so they have a full house to 'celebrate' it.

What I would like to know is, how in the first place were these groups permitted to stage these shows in public schools? Were they invited, and by whom? Did they approach the schools and ask them if they could do this?

I think Mr Fox knows the answer to his questions. Did armies of transtroopers suddenly decide to storm the schoolhouses of America and start twerking their perinea at kindergartners?

No. They were invited in by school boards and librarians, and indeed with the encouragement of almost all other officialdom, starting with the purported chief of state himself (a man who was credibly exposed this last week as a child molestor of his own daughter). Look at any picture of "Drag Queen Storytime", and all the adoring mommies loving every minute of it. These are the most "normal" women of your community: perfectly respectable NPR listeners and the like.

To reiterate: Trannies have been around in the shadows for millennia. So who decided to bring them front-and-center, and weaponize them against millions of children? Answer (American readers may want to stand well back):

Okay, if you'd prefer I be less universally condemnatory:

The American state, the American media, the American educational system and the American medical profession.

And, if you've got those on board, you don't need much else, do you?

To be sure, the dominant English-speaking power's fads and fancies have, as usual, been mimicked to one degree or another across the Anglosphere. But the rest of the west regards it as mainly an anglo perversion, mass marketed in the way US manufactures once were: to modify Henry Ford's Model T, you can get it in any color as long as it's trans.

Yet, from my instant and not terribly unscientific survey, it is not a phenomenon in my corner of either Italy or Slovenia. And nor is it likely to be.

So the question for those American parents baffled by the transanity of their kids' grade schools is: Is this even a tranny thing at all? Or is it, in fact, an End-Stage-America-Is-Evil thing?

We are undergoing (to revive a meme of last year) a controlled demolition of the entirety of western civilization - led by the west's dominant power. On almost any of the individual saplings that excite the news cycle, it makes more sense to pull back and survey the forest:

So you can talk about the "weakness" of the prosecution's case in the latest Trump indictment, as the legal scholars do all over cable TV, but to do so is to go along with the pretense that this is the routine functioning of a normal justice system. It's not. At the federal level, America has thrown out equality before the law because to do so diminishes any possibility of meaningful course correction by peaceful means. Look at the Trump officials who've been reduced to penury by legal "process" - General Flynn, Peter Navarro - and then ask yourself, if Trump wins in '24, who's going to be willing to serve in his second administration?

Speaking of 2024's Election Day Election Month Election Quarter, you can do as Conservative Inc does and pretend this is a free and fair election contest - ooh, who's up two points in Ohio? - or you can recognize that this is a racket that no practitioner of self-government, whether France or India, Denmark or Botswana, would recognize as a respectable election system.

So I'm interested in any questions on the madness of end-stage America - whose credit rating, I see, has just been downgraded by Fitch due to "erosion of governance". In the old days, US credit used to be downgraded just as a marketing gimmick for the launch of a new Steyn book. But now things are so bad it's gone beyond mere Steyn promotional tie-in. Hmm. Why is that?

~I'm also happy to take any questions on my (second) free-speech lawsuit against the UK state censor Ofcom in the High Court of England over its "rulings" against me for my coverage of the Covid vaccines. The case is officially called:

The King on the application of Mark SteynvsThe Office of Communications

But His Majesty is leaving it to me and my KC to do most of the heavy lifting. So you can read our latest Statement of Claim here.

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The "chilling effect" of Ofcom on public discourse is far worse than Canada under Section 13 or Australia under Section 18C, so once more unto the breach...

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So see you back here live this afternoon at 3pm North American Eastern Time. That's 4pm in the Canadian Maritimes, half-past-four in Newfoundland - and, beyond the Americas, 8pm in London and Dublin; 9pm in Paris and Berlin; 10pm in Kiev and Moscow, now in the same time zone if not the same country; 10.30pm in Teheran, for all you Newfoundlanders who move to Iran for the half-hour time zone; midnight-forty-five in Kathmandu, for all you Iranians who move to Nepal to check out the quarter-hour time zone; 3am in Singapore, Honkers and Perth (sorry about that); 5am in Sydney and Melbourne; 7am in Auckland and even deeper into Saturday in His Majesty's Dominions across the Pacific.

But, whatever hour it is where you are, we do hope you'll be able to join us. To listen to the livestream, simply click the "play" icon on the audio player (in certain browsers, the audio will start auto-playing). And to pose a question simply use the comment form below.

On August 4, 2023 at 2:58 pm, George Pereira wrote:

Mark,I have not been able to wrap my head around the idea that the same people who are violently pro mutilation of children, pro drag queen story hour, pro pornography in grade school, pro treating small American towns as being filled with ignorant toothless hillbillies, pro jailing the unvaxed as murderous criminals yet treat President Trump as the second coming of Satan.Their lives are filled with a mindless hatred for anyone who disagrees with them and all of the things they say they believe in are themselves profoundly evil.How can anyone live being consumed with such evil?

On August 4, 2023 at 3:01 pm, Scott Barnhouse wrote:

MarkI pray for your health and success in all of your various free speech cases. You need your health to continue with your fight for our freedoms, and I think I speak for the audience to say that we appreciate you and what you do.

My question is: You have repeatedly stated that you may have to take your case against Ofcom all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, and you say this as if you think you have a good chance of finally winning there. Given how the entirety of the EU seems to be working to censor opinions that they don't like, with formal laws restricting what can be posted on social media platforms, what makes you optimistic that this body may give a fair hearing to a freedom of speech claim?

Thank you Mark for all that you do, from your insights to your strong defense of free speech and rationality. We love you and wish you Godspeed.

Scott

On August 4, 2023 at 3:05 pm, Norman Fenton wrote:

Hope your recovery is going well. Was great to finally meet you in person on the cruise. While it felt good to be with so many 'awake' people, my question is: did you feel there were any new ideas arising from the discussions that are really going to help challenge the globalists' relentless drive toward their 'New World Order'?

And even if there were, how do we really break through and even reach the 'normies' who are still totally unaware of what is going on. For example, you have 363K twitter followers but your tweets seem to get almost no impressions.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:05 pm, George Pazin wrote:

No question today, just looking forward to hearing Mark's voice.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:05 pm, John Cameron wrote:

Yeehaa Marks back!

On August 4, 2023 at 3:06 pm, Chris Davies wrote:

Mark,

What a veritable pleasure it will be to have you back on the airwaves. I sincerely hope the bum ticker permits.

The episodes of the Mark Steyn Cruise have of course been of the usual high water mark and much enjoyed during your hiatus.

As it is now de rigeur for Costa and Dr Martens to follow Wickes, Target and Anheuser Busch in producing advertising material with breast scars, is the tide of ESG infected Woke capitalism becoming irresistible?

Profit seems to be an afterthought now and with Blackrock, State Street et al all offering cheap money for those who worship at the altar of the Church of Woke (Godless naturally), does it even matter?

I sense the pace at which we are heading off that cliff is hastening. We need your haemoglobin back firing on all cylinders to help cushion the fall with dark humour and more standing on the truth.

Get well soon Mark, our family will keep you in our thoughts and prayers.

Cheers.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:09 pm, Greg Warren wrote:

Good morning Mark from a somewhat chilly Sydney. I noted this week that the mi robes from Just Stop Reàson had installed themselves on the roof of Squishy Rishi's sub-Chequers pad.While this is amusing, is there any hope of wiping away the traitorous Tories without installing Lanour's equally vile apparatchics? British conservatism currently seems to resemble the yugoslavian partisans during the Nazi occupation in that they seem to hate each other ever so slightly more than they hate their occupiers. I am not optimistic.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:13 pm, Kelly Harbeson wrote:

Welcome back, Mark. Don't overdo. Do you think that the importation of needy third worlders is indeed a means to a permanent Democrat Presidency as has been suggested?

On August 4, 2023 at 3:15 pm, Jamie Marsh wrote:

Hi Mark,

With Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Government, and Big Unions working against us all these years, who would have predicted that it would be Big Trans that would finish us off? What say you?

On August 4, 2023 at 3:18 pm, Scott Schertzer wrote:

Dear Mark:

It's so good to hear that you are fit enough for today's Q&A! (or are you actually feigning sickness so you can stay in Trieste? As we are bombarded with new forms of insanity on a daily basis, from drag queen story hour, to critical race theory, to transgenderism, et al, it is no longer a secret (if it ever was) that the western elite wish to tear down civilization as we know it.

Since they are totally incapable of doing anything for themselves (such as landscaping, plumbing, cooking, etc) how do they think they will function once we have descended into total misery? Are they counting on AI to take care of these needs, or will they hold illegal aliens' hostage and force them into indentured servitude?

Please take good care of yourself as plummeting into the cultural abyss just wouldn't be the same without you.

Sincerely,

Scott SchertzerMiami Beach

On August 4, 2023 at 3:22 pm, Michelle Dulak wrote:

Dear Mark (hope you're well enough to do this!),

A question I've long had about travesti and the like: What do you make of the English pantomime? Where the Dame is always a man, and the Principal Boy is always a woman? The Dame is quite unlike modern drag queens, of course, but this sort of "gender reversal" has been accepted as good old family fun in England for a couple of centuries now. And by "family," I mean family; everyone is invited to the Christmas pantomime.

What say you? Where are the differences (apart from that I can't imagine a Dame twerking)?

On August 4, 2023 at 3:25 pm, Gordon MacMichael wrote:

I wonder if the sexualization agenda in schools isn't just a particularly egregious manifestation of what I think of as The Great Idleness. Governments want to win elections. They're eager to buy votes. Central banks are pressured to engage in "quantitative easing" to increase the money supply. Now credit is easy. Discipline is a foreign construct and Individuals and governments throw money around like "there's no tomorrow."

Instead of focusing on core subjects like mathematics, science, reading, writing, and physical fitness, schools are financially incentivized to expand into "social studies" and "sensitivity training". With all that easy money floating around, idleness and perversion can be indulged, even encouraged. What say you?

On August 4, 2023 at 3:26 pm, Toby Pilling wrote:

Does this downfall of Western civilization have to be due to either cock-up or conspiracy - can't it be a little bit of both? I prefer to imagine a 'keystone conspiracy' led by Klaus Schwab. He is no Moriarty.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:28 pm, Robert Fox wrote:

Mark,I want to prepare for the inevitable collapse of the U.S. dollar, whenever that occurs. What commodities should I begin hoarding? Gold coins? I've heard some say gold coins are not a good thing to have on hand in a circumstance like that. Instead, one should assemble a collection of firearms, ammunition and bottled water. Your thoughts.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:30 pm, Alison Castellina wrote:

Do you think we can draw any faint glimmers of hope on free speech from a) Nigel Farage's recent victories over debanking ideologues in leading British banks and b) the apparent support of the UK Govt?

On August 4, 2023 at 3:33 pm, A Clockwork Cabbage wrote:

The recent Steyn Cruise was terrific, but on it I also witnessed a real modern problem, what they call "overtourism" . Dubrovnik and Santorini were really overcrowded with the ilk of me. What's the remedy? Surely not the Neo North Korea that the Green Goblins envision for the World. Should the tourist havens be issuing some sort of local visa system? The status quo makes one feel guilty to be a tourist.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:35 pm, Brandy Edwards wrote:

Hi Mark!

So happy to hear your voice today!

Question for you... my worry with this latest Trump indictment is that, given the jury pool in D.C., it's a pretty much guaranteed guilty verdict. Of course, there's an appeal process, but that could take a long time. What chance does Trump have to stay out of jail pending appeal with this Obama judge (who has been throwing the book at other J6 defendants)? Once he's in their custody, one would think his level of protection would be severely diminished. Then, he's at their mercy. I'm worried about them Epstein-ing our guy. Scary times indeed!

Keeping you always in prayer for strength and healing

On August 4, 2023 at 3:37 pm, Chris Hall wrote:

Hi Mark,

I hope you're feeling better. The only upside is that Trieste is not a bad place in which to recuperate.

As for your suggested theme for the Q&A, I think that the takeover of the culture in the Anglosphere by progressive useful idiots has been made infinitely easier by the fact that our young people do not read, and haven't been reading for a very long time. Back when I was in Grades 10 to 13 (not a typo), the AVERAGE student could read and write at a level that would now be considered post-graduate material. As much as I loved math and physics, I was aware that reading lots of books, especially novels, was vital to be able to understand the world and the people who inhabit it. It doesn't matter if they're classics, romance novels, crime pot-boilers or sci-fi, they all teach you about people and they broaden your mind to the point where you can have a discerning take on what your professor, or TikTok influencer, who might in fact be one and the same, are dishing you. In pre-history, we had an oral tradition, then we had books. Now we have what? Is it any wonder that the culture can be manipulated so easily?

On August 4, 2023 at 3:39 pm, Glen Flint wrote:

Hi Mark,

Are you really convalescing in Trieste or are all your bank accounts and travel documents canceled by the respectable banks and countries around the planet? Are you forlornly waiting for Elba or some suitably isolated island to take you in?

Speaking of end stage evil, the other day my friend asked me where I thought Trump would be this time next year. Without hesitation I said, "Dead!" That's really the only option left to the Deep State at this point. Trump is becoming more popular with each new indictment as voters come to the same conclusion: Trump is far more dangerous to the Deep State than Epstein and his super-secret, never to be revealed list of clients. Epstein was "suicided" in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons. In a fair election, Trump can't be beaten by the desiccated sock puppet, his cackling hyena of a vice president, or the well-groomed governor of the formerly great state of California. Once the DOJ has him in their clutches, it won't take much effort to fix the Trump problem permanently.

How about a new, speculative version of the Clue board game? Christopher Wray, in the prison kitchen, with arsenic? Merrick Garland, in the shower, with a shiv?

Please tell me I'm wrong, but the Deep State is becoming ever more Machiavellian in their quest to keep their criminal enterprise under wraps.

All the best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Glen Flint

On August 4, 2023 at 3:40 pm, Jerome Skelly wrote:

Not really a question, from a last-15-minutes founding member from the USA, but I am recommending and seeking comment on a clear distillation of our current predicament in Benny Johnson's article "Who Is Really Pulling The Strings", AKA The Ghost In The Machine.

The US security state determines who can run for office (Clinton after Clinton, Bush after Bush, Michelle after Barak?), who can win (Biden), and who is allowed to stay (not JFK or Nixon). His main point is that Trump is the disrupter of all this, and the 2016 election showed that we have the power to win if we exercise it.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:44 pm, Perla wrote:

Hi MarkGreat to have you back!Not a question but more of a comment:I'll beg to differ with your assertion that Europe is way behind in the US in the woke and trans stakes.As far as I know both the UK and Sweden are doing pretty well when it comes to buying the evil concepts wholesale, no questions asked.And Sweden might be further saturated with the whole mess, as our lives are so heavily dictated to and influenced by the states involvement in everybody's life from the cradle to the grave. Unfortunately that includes the indoctrination of the youngest members of society where a vast majority goes to municipally run taxpayer subsidised daycare/preschool centers from about 1.5 years of age.A friend of mine, not originally from Sweden but from a less woke country, where men are still men so to speak, told me how she thought there was a printing error in the first LBGT+ picture book she was reading out load to the toddlers at work as it referred to a child's two mums. Imagine her surprise when it was pointedly pointed out to her that the preschool had in fact got an extensive collection of these kind of books. (And one must assume that goes for all the other child care centers in the country as well.)She also told me that all the staff have firm instructions from above (and it is coming from way above the local managers) to avoid using the words 'boy' and 'girl' when interacting with children in their care and actively discourage what is thought of as normative gender activities, e.g. when girls show a preference to play with dolls or boys with cars.But on the other hand the staff is encouraged to continually let the children know that they can choose and be whatever sex/gender they want, i.e a different one to what they actually are. How's that for an early introduction to cognitive dissonance and double speak! I feel so sorry for those growing up in these times and circumstances of the western world.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:45 pm, Jason Cawley wrote:

Suggested topics on late stage American collapse. First it seems the left's institutional infiltration works because many "conservatives" only supported conventional power structures out of careerism and conformity, so they will happily support communism if a rich corporation promotes it, or degeneracy if it brings good rather than bad publicity, or west-hatred if if helps Bunny get into Stanford. What points of leverage do we have to reverse this move, and engage careerist conformity *against* modern leftism? Second it seems the left is more and more dispensing with the elements of popularity and consent they sought in the past, leading to the question - what do they still need the populace for? They don't need our votes if they just cheat; our taxes if they just power; our economic activity if all that matters is the stock price of 10 corporations in the trillion dollar class; our PR approval if they just censure all views in old line and social media, etc. What do they still need? Where are they still sensitive? Some elements of pop culture - Bud Light, failing Disney, "flop-busters", evaporating audiences for all traditional media - seem to be slipping from their grasp. The "dogs" just don't like the dog-food. Any leverage there? Third area - do the trumped up Trump charges provide an opening to re-litigate the last election in less corrupt venues? The right ought to be able to use congressional power (house) to withhold our consent from the anti-democratic overreach of the recent left, but to date they are feckless on the subject of course. Do elected Rs need anything from actual conservative people, either? Points of leverage to change the trajectory rather than just seeing the current trend is the underlying subject uniting my 3 questions.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:47 pm, Hart Leonard wrote:

Well, first it was hospitalization in France with comely and competent French nurses in attendance. Then, it was rest and treatment in Trieste, where one could gaze out the window and muse about topless sunbathers. What's next? Convalescence on the Copacabana? Bed-ridden in Bora-Bora? We just wish for your full and stable recovery, outside of Vermont....wherever it may be. ...

What do you make of this Devon Archer fellow? There's much excitement over his testimony, and his interview with Tucker created quite a stir among conservative punditry. I watched his interview with Tucker and was very underwhelmed. I didn't hear Archer really implicate the elder Biden in any substantive wrongdoing. Vague, wink-wink-nod-nod tight-lipped inferences were made.. and certainly much that would seemingly implicate Hunter, but I didn't hear him say anything directly damaging to Joe. I must question everything these days and wonder if Archer is what he's purported to be. He comes across as a bit "greasy" to me...but he would have to be, wouldn't he? But in the end, will his testimony make any difference....even about Hunter? My prediction is that a new, polished and tight plea-deal will be forthcoming for Hunter that will then be sanctioned by the judge and that will protect him from the prosecution under FARA.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:48 pm, Douglas wrote:

Mark,

Happy to have you back. Can you speak on any plans you might have on future endeavors with Tucker? The Steyn-Tucker duo is unmatched.

All the best,Douglas

On August 4, 2023 at 3:49 pm, Robert Bridges wrote:

How deep is the trans-continental penetration in the US? I give you Wyoming (Land of Quigley).... a tennis official left the tennis establishment in Wyoming over trans being let into women's tennis. She had had enough of that.

All I can say is.... the only balls that should be on court in women's tennis should say "Wilson".

On August 4, 2023 at 3:51 pm, Stephen Davis wrote:

Buengiorno, Mark.I've always enjoyed your humor and historical perspective! It is almost exactly 4 years ago that a piece I wrote for The American Spectator titled "The Case for Men to Transition" was published. In it I pondered how great an athlete I might have been if I'd played for the other side.I cited the women's Russian track and field athletes Tamara and Irina Press, owners of 26 world records between 1959 and 1966. I wrote, "The sisters were referred to by some who trusted only their eyes as 'the Press brothers.' They were the greatest until they retired from the sport. It may have been a mere coincidence that the girls decided to hang up their spikes, if not their athletic supporters, when gender verification began."Four years ago, the absurdity of trannies competing against women seemed obvious. Now, to say otherwise is hate speech.I'll conclude with prayers for your recovery!

On August 4, 2023 at 3:52 pm, Walt Trimmer wrote:

C'mon man! Foggy Dew with the Chieftains.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:55 pm, Mark Shere wrote:

Mark, I hope this finds you live, in all senses of the word, as scheduled. No question, just expressing my gratitude for all you do. And offering a few lines from Tennyson that I'm sure you know:

Free hearts, free foreheads—you and I are old...Some work of noble note, may yet be done,Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods...

We are not now that strength which in old daysMoved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;One equal temper of heroic hearts,Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will

On August 4, 2023 at 3:57 pm, SIMON ARNOLD wrote:

Hi Mark,

Good to hear you back on the airwaves. As the collective health is on the decline. I think you'll agree the buffoonery has reached an all-time high.

All the best.

On August 4, 2023 at 3:59 pm, Michael Cavino wrote:

Hi Mark,

We are all praying for you and hope you get well soon. We need your clear thinking in the insane world we live in these days. Feel better!

Best regards,Michael

On August 4, 2023 at 4:14 pm, Suzanne Reny wrote:

As much as I've enjoyed the past few weeks live around the planet shows it's been wonderful hearing your voice. Take care of yourself, we need your voice in this crazy world.

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